Talk:Unniyarcha

Latest comment: 3 months ago by Nemov in topic ai image in the article

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AfD closure noted above was improperly administered. "Unniarcha" should have been merged into "Unniyarcha", the predominant spelling. Askari Mark (Talk) 17:26, 28 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Unniyarcha

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Unniyarcha is correct not Unniarcha. 123.243.18.3 (talk) 23:40, 8 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Reference

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Some stupids are constantly removing the references !!! Don't know what vested interests they have regarding chekava caste !!! Arunksm (talk) 20:01, 18 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

Vandalism on Unniarcha's father

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Unniarcha's father is kannappa chekavar.

ref link of the famous news paper in india : https://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/current-affairs/281117/what-mt-did-to-unniyarcha.html

one can also search on youtube for the famous movie vadakkan veeragada , where unniarcha's father is kannappa chekavar.

Unniarcha's brother is aromal chekavar and cousin is chandu chekavar.

All are chekavar.

someone is vandalizing it to Chindan nambiar , a Nair aristocrat as unniarcha's father without any reference.

Admin must look into this.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.167.192.67 (talk) 15:34, 18 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

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Muslims? Or Barbarians

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Was the danger in Nadapuram Muslims in particular, or more generally, 'barbarians'? A while ago, this article held that Unniyarcha was dissuaded from travelling as 'barbarians'/'dacoits'/'hooligans' were many: it was not stated particularly that the barbarians were Muslim.

ai image in the article

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wikipedia encourages ai images :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvyrz4Y44iU

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Artificial_intelligence

discuss here in case you have a different view CaptiveWarrior (talk) 01:56, 4 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

A random video from someone on youtube and an information page that doesn't support your claim?
Wikipedia does not "encourage" fake images. Cremastra (uc) 15:55, 4 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
This is not a 'random' video from YouTube. it is posted in Wikipedia page for users and editors.
I have noticed you have started a project for 'ai cleaning up' in Wikipedia.
Does that mean 'no ai images are allowed' in Wikipedia ? CaptiveWarrior (talk) 19:56, 4 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
please let me know what is wrong with this image:
File:Unniyarcha traveling through Nadapuram Angady after killing the Jonakas.webp
Unniyarcha traveling through Nadapuram Angady after killing the Jonakas (Mappilas) with her Urumi
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Why can't it be included in the article ? CaptiveWarrior (talk) 20:07, 4 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
Because it is fake: there is no historical basis for this depiction. It is just an image the AI invented based on its training. As yet, there are no official guidelines for AI on Wikipedia, but we have image use policies and in general don't want to mislead the reader.
Besides, the fake image doesn't make sense. If she's in her palanquin, how did these corpses turn up? Also, I think one of the bodies is about to get stepped on. Cremastra (uc) 21:58, 4 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
And, no, I didn't found Wikipedia:WikiProject AI Cleanup: I'm just one of its 112 members. Cremastra (uc) 21:59, 4 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
this is based on this incident [[1]].
The caption says after killing jonakas. she is returning after killing jonakas.
Painting have artistic angles. In some you cannot explicitly see the character as like here. This painting is where she is returning in her palanquin after killing jonakas.
the core for this incident is this:
- While she was travelling through nadapuram town in kerala in her palanquin , some jonakas tried to sexually assualt her. she killed them with all with her urumi and returned back.
The painting:
- captures exactly the same event depiction.
A human painter will draw this event as this , or more or less somewhat same as this.
Model is trained with images drawn by humans and images taken from camers, and it has immense images from kerala, so it correctly depicts the attire, coconut trees at background, and kerala style buldings with brick mud blocks as roof. even the palanquin is of Kerala style. model is well trained and it's encoder decoder attention mechanism captures very details.
If I add 'ai image' attribution in the caption , will it be okay ? CaptiveWarrior (talk) 22:08, 4 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
An AI-generated image is still utterly different from a painting by someone who was there or (since this is a legendary character) is at least familiar with the stories. This is a human encyclopedia, not an AI encyclopedia, and made-up images have no place in it.
I plan to request a third opinion on this dispute. Cremastra (uc) 22:11, 4 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

  3O Response: I don't see a policy based argument for inclusion and the editor arguing for inclusion is also a sock. The image should be left out until there's a consensus to include. Nemov (talk) 14:08, 5 January 2025 (UTC) Nemov (talk) 14:08, 5 January 2025 (UTC)Reply